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	<title>Comments on: Here Comes Another Takedown</title>
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	<description>Musings of a techie lawyer</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: otogaz</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-3246</link>
		<dc:creator>otogaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omething about this seemed familiar, and eventually I recalled Joseph Cornell. His work is currently on display at the San Fransisco MOMA (the link I supplied above). He made collages and boxes using “found art”. I’m sure that under a strict interpretation of today’s copyright laws, most of his work would run into the same issues you describe here. This is a great example of the type of transformation work that long copy rights and over-expansive derived works can kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omething about this seemed familiar, and eventually I recalled Joseph Cornell. His work is currently on display at the San Fransisco MOMA (the link I supplied above). He made collages and boxes using “found art”. I’m sure that under a strict interpretation of today’s copyright laws, most of his work would run into the same issues you describe here. This is a great example of the type of transformation work that long copy rights and over-expansive derived works can kill.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-3204</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the important thing to remember here is that the photo appears to have been available to license, but the Richter Scales chose to use it for free (and to replace it rather than pay a fee).  Publishers, documentary filmmakers and other creators of works that include the work of others have long had to search for public domain photos or seek permission of copyright holders.  While certainly there is some room to argue fair use, it seems fairly weak in this example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the important thing to remember here is that the photo appears to have been available to license, but the Richter Scales chose to use it for free (and to replace it rather than pay a fee).  Publishers, documentary filmmakers and other creators of works that include the work of others have long had to search for public domain photos or seek permission of copyright holders.  While certainly there is some room to argue fair use, it seems fairly weak in this example.</p>
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		<title>By: plastik</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-3122</link>
		<dc:creator>plastik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why i think there is always going to be a place in the world for main stream media (not that i am saying they don't make mistakes) reporters have to answer to there editors bloggers don't have to answer to anyone

why remove all you photos from flickr (or make them private thats a bit of an over reaction don't you think?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is why i think there is always going to be a place in the world for main stream media (not that i am saying they don&#8217;t make mistakes) reporters have to answer to there editors bloggers don&#8217;t have to answer to anyone</p>
<p>why remove all you photos from flickr (or make them private thats a bit of an over reaction don&#8217;t you think?)</p>
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		<title>By: More Comment Work&#8230; &#171; BlogAnon</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-3037</link>
		<dc:creator>More Comment Work&#8230; &#171; BlogAnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alive Worldwide</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-3001</link>
		<dc:creator>Alive Worldwide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another sad report about creative independent work being squashed on YouTube...  I guess they must think its cheaper to play cat and mouse than to stand up for the users who are providing them with the content that is making them rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another sad report about creative independent work being squashed on YouTube&#8230;  I guess they must think its cheaper to play cat and mouse than to stand up for the users who are providing them with the content that is making them rich.</p>
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		<title>By: www.results-videos-news.com</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-2962</link>
		<dc:creator>www.results-videos-news.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good video - could see it getting banned though - just not this way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good video - could see it getting banned though - just not this way!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2007/12/20/here-comes-another-takedown.html#comment-2815</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something about this seemed familiar, and eventually I recalled Joseph Cornell. His work is currently on display at the San Fransisco MOMA (the link I supplied above). He made collages and boxes using "found art". I'm sure that under a strict interpretation of today's copyright laws, most of his work would run into the same issues you describe here. This is a great example of the type of transformation work that long copy rights and over-expansive derived works can kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something about this seemed familiar, and eventually I recalled Joseph Cornell. His work is currently on display at the San Fransisco MOMA (the link I supplied above). He made collages and boxes using &#8220;found art&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure that under a strict interpretation of today&#8217;s copyright laws, most of his work would run into the same issues you describe here. This is a great example of the type of transformation work that long copy rights and over-expansive derived works can kill.</p>
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