Comments on: RIP: Habeas Corpus

By: Wendy

Wendy — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:30:27 +0000

Yes, there are terrible parts of the bill that apply to American citizens as well as aliens. The deletion of habeas corpus protection applies only to non-citizens (at this time).

Thanks Robert, I do contact my elected representatives.

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:07:51 +0000

Yes the Geneva Convention has been used in regard to our troops in every war we’ve fought in… wait.. korea…no. Vietnam… no. Desert Storm… nope. bosnia… no. somilia… no. Afganistan… no. Iraq… not a chance. So my question is why is it such a crime that we apply the same rules to them as they apply to us? I am not saying that this act is a good one for U.S. citizens however, your elected representives are the ones who passed it. If you are truly upset about it, contact them.

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:22:57 +0000

GLeen Greenwald is correct. The actual text of what was passed is:

(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT.(A) The term unlawful
enemy combatant means (i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces); or (ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent
tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.

There is nothing in there that specifies the person must be a foreign national.

I hope the supreme court wakes up to what this really is, a way for Bush to make anyone he wants to simply “go away” and be tortured until they confess to something.

What is ludicrous is the part about the Geneva convention: “(g) GENEVA CONVENTIONS NOT ESTABLISHING SOURCE OF RIGHTS.No alien unlawful enemy combatant subject to trial by military commission under this chapter may invoke the Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.”

How can the other countries of the world allow the US to simply declare that the Geneva Convention is no longer in force for anyone they capture and torture?

By: HeresTomWithTheWeather

HeresTomWithTheWeather — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:38:58 +0000

glenn greenwald says unlawful enemy combatants applies to u.s. citizens as well:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/glenngreenwald/116119265890304399/?a=34036#44605

By: Vigilante

Vigilante — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:30:07 +0000

Bush will stop at nothing to elevate his sorry-ass fiasco in Iraq to the status of a war for national security. There is literally nothing he will not sacrifice to save his ass.

As he has said,

“You never know what your history is going to be like until long after you’re gone.”

There is nothing he will not classify, arrest, torture, invade, bomb, pervert, fabricate, or misrepresent to delay that reckoning with history.