Comments on: Kids: Understand the USPTO’s distortion of the law http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html Musings of a techie lawyer Sun, 20 May 2012 19:00:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-bleeding By: Allison Trump http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-390 Allison Trump Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:28:16 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-390 This is cool, you have to try it. I guessed 51343, and this game guessed it! See it here - <a href="http://www.funbrain.com/guess/" rel="nofollow">http://www.funbrain.com/guess/</a> This is cool, you have to try it. I guessed 51343, and this game guessed it! See it here - http://www.funbrain.com/guess/

]]> By: sam http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-389 sam Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:45:15 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-389 as for fake desinger clothes, thats the norm these days. cheers, sam as for fake desinger clothes, thats the norm these days.

cheers, sam

]]> By: qlic http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-388 qlic Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:42:11 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-388 I also took a class in school Legal Issues in the Arts and Entertainment - glad I did. I also took a class in school Legal Issues in the Arts and Entertainment - glad I did.

]]> By: plumbing crane http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-387 plumbing crane Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:48:33 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-387 The Good blog! Very interesting! Respect you! This is my site: <a href="http://plumbing.punjabilok.net/" rel="nofollow">http://plumbing.punjabilok.net/</a> The Good blog! Very interesting! Respect you! This is my site: http://plumbing.punjabilok.net/

]]> By: Aureantes http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-386 Aureantes Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:16:42 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-386 Oh, and I did study this stuff in college -- "Legal Issues in the Arts and Entertainment", good class. Pity that so many people can't tell the difference between fair use & personal sharing and outright for-profit commercial piracy. And that so many lawyers and corporations don't particularly care about either artists or the media consumers that are their audiences, so long as they get their settlements and big bucks. Fair use is fair use -- hell, or *should* be, even if it's the ultra-litigious 'Church of Scientology' that doesn't like anyone looking at their material too closely. There are, imho, higher ideals to serve. Oh, and I did study this stuff in college — “Legal Issues in the Arts and Entertainment”, good class. Pity that so many people can’t tell the difference between fair use & personal sharing and outright for-profit commercial piracy. And that so many lawyers and corporations don’t particularly care about either artists or the media consumers that are their audiences, so long as they get their settlements and big bucks. Fair use is fair use — hell, or *should* be, even if it’s the ultra-litigious ‘Church of Scientology’ that doesn’t like anyone looking at their material too closely. There are, imho, higher ideals to serve.

]]> By: Aureantes http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-385 Aureantes Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:03:05 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-385 Great stuff....now, anyone wanna bring in how the HDTV conversion is going to make it so much easier to crack down on recording anything off the airwaves, for any purpose? Make everything digital, and it'll all get digitally coded to prevent saving, sharing, and (not that this matters) even getting other people interested in the damn things in question atall. Since when is money to a producion company and copyright lawyers more important then being known and recognized for your work, and its contribution to the world? Personally, I am holding onto my cassette tapes and stereo w/ dual deck and turntable -- and our VCR -- as long as possible. Helps me as an independant artist, too. Treat everyone like intellectual-property criminals, and believe me, they'll start acting like 'em for real. Great stuff….now, anyone wanna bring in how the HDTV conversion is going to make it so much easier to crack down on recording anything off the airwaves, for any purpose? Make everything digital, and it’ll all get digitally coded to prevent saving, sharing, and (not that this matters) even getting other people interested in the damn things in question atall. Since when is money to a producion company and copyright lawyers more important then being known and recognized for your work, and its contribution to the world? Personally, I am holding onto my cassette tapes and stereo w/ dual deck and turntable — and our VCR — as long as possible. Helps me as an independant artist, too. Treat everyone like intellectual-property criminals, and believe me, they’ll start acting like ‘em for real.

]]> By: dale baker http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-384 dale baker Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:00:02 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-384 Yoshi is full of sh*t. Anyone who actually buys Louis Vuitton products (or Coach, or Kate Spade, or any of another targets for knock-offs) knows darn well if it is authentic or not. My wife can spot a knock-off handbag (or clothes, shoes, hats, etc.) at fifty paces. She complains that I won't let her buy them anymore (since we got married), but she pointed out an uppity broad at the new Crate and Barrel in Milwaukee, last weekend wearing nothing authentic. We began to wonder if she was an alien - since nothing else about her was what she intended people to think. As the anonymous user above pointed out - people who buy the real thing know how to spot a fake. (I lost two corners off my man card just for knowing the above designers.) Yoshi is full of sh*t. Anyone who actually buys Louis Vuitton products (or Coach, or Kate Spade, or any of another targets for knock-offs) knows darn well if it is authentic or not. My wife can spot a knock-off handbag (or clothes, shoes, hats, etc.) at fifty paces.

She complains that I won’t let her buy them anymore (since we got married), but she pointed out an uppity broad at the new Crate and Barrel in Milwaukee, last weekend wearing nothing authentic. We began to wonder if she was an alien - since nothing else about her was what she intended people to think.

As the anonymous user above pointed out - people who buy the real thing know how to spot a fake.

(I lost two corners off my man card just for knowing the above designers.)

]]> By: travisty http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-383 travisty Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:38:57 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-383 "Your cousin asks to borrow your music CD so he can "burn" a copy." Congratulations! It appears you've purchased a CD that hasn't been crippled with DRM, in all likelihood from an independent/non-major label artist who understands that when music fans share the music they love, everyone wins. "Your dad bought you an MP3 player, so you e-mail your friends and swap the latest music." Congratulations! It appears you've purchased or downloaded digital music files that haven't been crippled with DRM (in all likelihood from a source other than iTunes). You're continuing the tradition of home taping (much like the sort of copying permitted by Congress under the Audio Home Recording Act). Your dad probably did much the same thing back in the 70s. And because we know that the recording industry cares about families, we're sure that they won't mind contributing to the bonding experience that you and your father are now sharing. “Your cousin asks to borrow your music CD so he can “burn” a copy.”

Congratulations! It appears you’ve purchased a CD that hasn’t been crippled with DRM, in all likelihood from an independent/non-major label artist who understands that when music fans share the music they love, everyone wins.

“Your dad bought you an MP3 player, so you e-mail your friends and swap the latest music.”

Congratulations! It appears you’ve purchased or downloaded digital music files that haven’t been crippled with DRM (in all likelihood from a source other than iTunes). You’re continuing the tradition of home taping (much like the sort of copying permitted by Congress under the Audio Home Recording Act). Your dad probably did much the same thing back in the 70s. And because we know that the recording industry cares about families, we’re sure that they won’t mind contributing to the bonding experience that you and your father are now sharing.

]]> By: Wendy http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-382 Wendy Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:30:25 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-382 Thanks Yoshi. I disagree with the "secondary confusion" rationale because I think it harms free-market competition around design, but you're right to add it to the discussion. Thanks Yoshi. I disagree with the “secondary confusion” rationale because I think it harms free-market competition around design, but you’re right to add it to the discussion.

]]> By: Wendy http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/09/14/kids_understand_the_usptos_distortion_of_the_law.html#comment-381 Wendy Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:26:06 +0000 http://wendy.seltzer.org/wordpress/?p=275#comment-381 Thanks for all the help filling these in! "Your friends found a really cool website where you can download the latest movies for free." Good stuff. Was it one of <a href="http://ourmedia.org/" rel="nofollow">http://ourmedia.org/</a> , <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/opensource_movies" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/opensource_movies</a> , or <a href="http://www.prodigem.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.prodigem.com/</a> ? Or perhaps a search for Creative Commons Licensed films, <a href="http://search.creativecommons.org/" rel="nofollow">http://search.creativecommons.org/</a> or on Google video, <a href="http://video.google.com/" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/</a> . Maybe you'll be inspired to add your own to the collection. Thanks for all the help filling these in!

“Your friends found a really cool website where you can download the latest movies for free.”

Good stuff. Was it one of http://ourmedia.org/ , http://www.archive.org/details/opensource_movies , or http://www.prodigem.com/ ? Or perhaps a search for Creative Commons Licensed films, http://search.creativecommons.org/ or on Google video, http://video.google.com/ .
Maybe you’ll be inspired to add your own to the collection.

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