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	<title>Comments on: Palm: How to Lose Fans and Alienate Developers</title>
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		<title>By: onli&#110;e c&#97;sinos</title>
		<link>http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/archives/2005/02/08/palm_how_to_lose_fans_and_alienate_developers.html#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>onli&#110;e c&#97;sinos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very useful comments - good to read

on&#108;ine cas&#105;nos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very useful comments - good to read</p>
<p>on&#108;ine cas&#105;nos</p>
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		<title>By: Copyfight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Copyfight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ouch, There's a Patent in my Palm!&lt;/strong&gt;

The new Treo arrived, and apart from some SIM and Cingular issues, seems to work well. It seems that software patents have stopped it from being even better, though. The Treo keyboard is very good, for something with chiclet keys,...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ouch, There&#8217;s a Patent in my Palm!</strong></p>
<p>The new Treo arrived, and apart from some SIM and Cingular issues, seems to work well. It seems that software patents have stopped it from being even better, though. The Treo keyboard is very good, for something with chiclet keys,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2005 01:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Warning, rant inside...) Funny you should mention this.  I just, less than a week ago, finally gave up on Palm OS devices.  I still love the Palm OS.  Love the software.  I've burned through three misc. Palm OS devices over the years, as well as copious software and accessories.  But the hardware has just been getting worse and worse and worse every year, and they've fallen further and further behind every year.

As of now, there's ONLY ONE palm OS device being shopped to the U.S. that has wifi, and that's the hopeless tungsten C, with one of those horrible unusable mini keyboards, it's huge, it's ugly, it's made out of the cheapest plastic imaginable, and it basically has no other frills.

The last Palm OS device to come out to ship with interesting hardware features was the CLIE TH-55, but, oh, wait, Sony is no longer shipping them to the U.S.  They're selling for a good fifty bucks over MSRP, USED, on ebay now, and those Sony geniuses won't sell 'em themselves.  

I finally lost patience.  For $350.00, I picked up a middle-of-the road HP Ipaq, getting wifi, AND bluetooth, and infared that actually has juice, and speakers that actually can be used to play something, and general structural soundness so that I can trust it not to fall apart after a year like my last Palm OS device (an older Clie) did.  Cheaper than the Tungsten C, much cheaper than that idiotic new T5 abomination.  Toss in a keyboard and a SD card, and for under five hundred bucks, I have a PDA that can handle every function that PDAs do well, and play a dozen cd's worth of jazz mp3s on top.  (Which for me means miles miles miles miles trane trane trane monk monk mingus ra dizz.)

So I've finally turned to the dark side.  Palm made me do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Warning, rant inside&#8230;) Funny you should mention this.  I just, less than a week ago, finally gave up on Palm OS devices.  I still love the Palm OS.  Love the software.  I&#8217;ve burned through three misc. Palm OS devices over the years, as well as copious software and accessories.  But the hardware has just been getting worse and worse and worse every year, and they&#8217;ve fallen further and further behind every year.</p>
<p>As of now, there&#8217;s ONLY ONE palm OS device being shopped to the U.S. that has wifi, and that&#8217;s the hopeless tungsten C, with one of those horrible unusable mini keyboards, it&#8217;s huge, it&#8217;s ugly, it&#8217;s made out of the cheapest plastic imaginable, and it basically has no other frills.</p>
<p>The last Palm OS device to come out to ship with interesting hardware features was the CLIE TH-55, but, oh, wait, Sony is no longer shipping them to the U.S.  They&#8217;re selling for a good fifty bucks over MSRP, USED, on ebay now, and those Sony geniuses won&#8217;t sell &#8216;em themselves.  </p>
<p>I finally lost patience.  For $350.00, I picked up a middle-of-the road HP Ipaq, getting wifi, AND bluetooth, and infared that actually has juice, and speakers that actually can be used to play something, and general structural soundness so that I can trust it not to fall apart after a year like my last Palm OS device (an older Clie) did.  Cheaper than the Tungsten C, much cheaper than that idiotic new T5 abomination.  Toss in a keyboard and a SD card, and for under five hundred bucks, I have a PDA that can handle every function that PDAs do well, and play a dozen cd&#8217;s worth of jazz mp3s on top.  (Which for me means miles miles miles miles trane trane trane monk monk mingus ra dizz.)</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve finally turned to the dark side.  Palm made me do it.</p>
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